Everyone Keeps Asking Me, Why Don’t You Take a Vacation?

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Spot on, and saddening, blog posting. As she touches on, the laws make it just like what Uncle Sam says about terrorism: “we have to be right always, they only need to be right once.” We RCs need to be right always, but if wrong once: felony.

I did notice at least one error in her information. I looked for a way to contact her, but didn’t find one. Anyway, she says, “4- Per law § 9.1-903 Section G Registered Sex Offenders in Virginia have 30 minutes to register in-person (not electronically or over the phone) any changes (additions or deletions)…” Actually, the law says, “either in person or electronically,” though the ridiculous 30-minute window is correct. (Good Lord, are they actively monitoring 24/7, or WTF is with that??!?) At any rate, this goes to show why nobody should trust another layperson’s direction or advice as to what’s what in a State’s SORA laws. Read them yourself, perhaps enlist an attorney, and know them for yourself.

I also noticed that the name of their registry is “Virginia Sex Offender and Crimes Against Minors Registry.” I wonder if the acronym used is “SOCAM” (as in “soak ’em”) or “SCAM” or “SCAMR” to reflect the truth behind the laws.

This article really nails it. It is so true for many of us, and it takes out the fun of taking a vacation anywhere. Most don’t know all the rules each State, County or City has, and this holds true for Law Enforcement and Lawyers, too. Try asking lawyer or police officer about a State’s, County’s or City’s ordinance, and you will get a lot of head shaking. Nobody knows! One county or city may have presence restrictions, when others don’t. It is hard enough to keep up with your own State, but adding any State you may want to travel to is near impossible. I am sure many have traveled and innocently broken the “law” by just not knowing or being expected to know. Still, one wrong move like running a red light, etc might attract attention and further investigation once it is know that person is an SO. These “laws” are too vague and too diverse depending on where you go, they HAVE to be made illegal once and for all.

If (when?) the Registries are finally ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS, I suspect all of these laws will simply be changed to read “anyone convicted of a sexual offense” rather than the current descriptor “Registered Sex Offender”. It’s my expectation that all these laws will remain in place regardless and forever. In the future, we may not be “Registered”, but I’ll bet the public and lawmakers will continue their relentless efforts to punish us ex post facto. 😠 But wait, I could be wrong …. if there are no more Registries, there will be no need to go to any law enforcement agency or office in order to register! Maybe things can change! 😁 Hope pray work. 👍

Remember how the 2003 Smith decision says there are no restrictions to travel? Apparently, there is and it comes with a penalty. Freedom to travel unmolested.

Seems punitive in result. And, according to Mrs Devoy, the compliance check when they’re abroad also is a probationary/parole trait of being under custody, which is another word for being supervised.

Is this another “separate, but equal” idea? “Not probation/parole (under custody), but regulatory intent to keep under custody for public safety.”

The article is a bit over the top and an exaggeration. I travel around the country for work quite a bit, and yes, I have to be aware of local state laws. Most states allow you grace time to register, so If you are not there long enough, then you are not affected. Yes, a couple of states like Nevada give you only two days, bu that is not the majority. I have also taken my kids to Disneyland and Disney World as a registrant and allowed in.

I don’t find this type of article helpful for it is not really accurate.

Vacation is not that hard. Keep a low profile and stay clean. Know which hotels/motels are favorable for you to stay in, including not using AirBnB obviously now.

I have been pulled over four times during travel since I have had to register and only once, thankfully, I was asked if my registration was current. Uh, duh, you have my license and the ability to see the info through your laptop, so you know already whether it is current, especially since it was in the same town I am registered in. The other three times were twice in state and once out of state I was passing through with no questions asked. Say the least, it is nice to have NO identifying marks on the DL for LEOs to note when traveling out of state and in state for that matter.

BTW, SCOTUS has said LEOs are permitted to be ignorant of the law in the process of them doing their line of duty. Don’t ever assume they know what they are doing by the law. They have a pass already in their favor.

Since the IML got passed and registrants are not able to travel internationally, that question will sure create dilemma for registrants that want to travel abroad and they’ll be faced with the stigma of not being able to travel due to effects of the IML. The IML is unconstitutional, does not keep anyone safe, and it endangers lives.

What about murderers, DUI’s, arsonists, those convicted of assualt and battery, bank robbers, burglars, speeders, reckless drivers, etc. who are more of a threat to society then RSO will be. More repeat offenders in those catagories then the RSO community??

I travel by car for long weekend vacations in or out of state with my wife and children. I had no idea!!!

I think Mary’s post and frustration is true for many of us.

Travel is possible, but it is a task, not a joy…and other people don’t understand, not really.

Some very best friends want to go to Mexico surfing this weekend…I say I can’t go…they say why not?…I explain again even though they know…they argue I’ll be in a car, they probably won’t check at the border…I say I have to give 21 day notice…they say Unbelievable….I say, Yes, but true…they are friends but they seem aggravated by this absolute refusal of mine to commit a felony for their fun.

On the other hand, Hawaii is 10 days, Utah 10 days, both great destinations, and all of Europe is available. (as is Hong Kong/Macau)

We put self restrictions on ourselves…barriers in our minds….and this is the most pernicious aspect of the Registration scheme. Even state to state, and this should be certainly unconstitutional under the free movement provisions under the Commerce Clause.

Well…good luck to everyone.

Best Wishes, James

Thank you for this post. I totally understand the fear of travel. Wife and I have done a little bit of traveling, but only after making sure we are totally following the rules. We have actually planned and cancelled at least 3 vacations over the years due to fear.

I actually have a couple of questions regarding Virginia itself though. I have been lucky enough to be off the list since 2 years ago in my own state, but realize it is still a minefield in traveling out of state. I still try to follow the time limits and rules to the T, in that I in no way want back on.. Here are my questions…

1) The ACSOL state spreadsheet states for VA, “Those on “an extended visit” of “30 days or
more” must register w/in 3 days.” Am I reading that right that one can visit for up to 29 days without registering? That seem way more generous than every other state. We would only visit for max of week if we did.

2) Does anyone know of any restrictions, or have any experiences with Colonial Williamsburg and Busch Gardens?

Wife and I are trying to see if this would be feasible. Thanks in advance for any advice.

Thank you Mary for articulating what a lot of us quietly endure every time summer rolls around. I too am the spouse of a registrant , and our last vacation was 5 years ago to Europe. Haven’t even entertained the thought since. A vacation is suppose to be a respite from routine, and mostly it is suppose to be fun. How can you enjoy a vacation while trying to dodge all the penalty triggering restrictions? Sometimes I feel fortunate that we live in California, because it’s a large state with diverse landscapes and a lot of places I still haven’t explored, but even then, we have to consider hotels, federal park lands that might consider my (non-disclosed) husband some kind of liability and turn us away.

I am always asked by work colleagues, friends and family why I don’t take a vacation, and I just try to change the subject. I have been tempted to launch into a lengthy explanation about sex offender laws- but have restrained myself. (One day I might- because this stuff needs to be exposed for the folly that it is)
Thankfully, my husband and I have so much fun just being together that escaping to a far away place isn’t that important anymore , but if a
tiered registry relieves him of his status, we will ride the asphalt as far as it takes us without having to worry about minion enforcers on our tail.

Freedom may be just around the corner.

Why would someone with an old conviction that has been set aside for 20 years be afraid to travel? I found out a couple years ago when I was sent home from Mexico. Mary is correct. Too many rules to risk. For now I will only vacation in Hawaii and my own state of California. I pray the laws change.

I understand that travel is fraught with danger for registered citizens and their loved ones, but I know people who have traveled, so it is possible. ‘Whether it is worth the risk or not I think depends on the situation and person.

Some people like to travel around the country and see how many states they can visit in their lifetime. Some have managed to visit all 50 states. I think a fun challenge would be to travel to as many states as possible…to see who can be the first person to become a registered sex offender in all 50 states.

I could not have put it better than this article but my family and I can definitely 100% relate. Great post!

What we have here is Sex Offender Law Abuse. It is time to move SO from villain status to sex offender law abuse victims.

The registry is favored by stupid and brutal people. They would rather you sit at home with nothing to do and nothing to lose, than let you engage in healthy, restorative and legal fun (legal for everyone else that is), which may be just what many need to keep them from slipping into bad habits, and to keep the people they are connected to happy and healthy also. I think we are the only former offenders who are punished for attempting live a good life.

@Mary

Thank you Mary, for a well written article.

For those of you that brag about ignoring the laws and just doing what you want to “under the radar”…sorry…I’ve got 2 young kids and the idea of missing 2-10 years of them growing up on the off chance that I get pulled over speeding, or some cop figures out from someone else’s FB post that I wasn’t where I should be, and they prosecute for failure to register, isn’t an option.

Sure, there are ways around a lot of the problems, but Mary is accurate that if you try to do things the normal way an American should be able to do them, you’ll get banned from places. For AirBNB and Disney, you have to have another family member make the purchase. For what states you go to, yes, we can work around it by going to those with longer periods before registration, but we shouldn’t have to.

This is the type of situation that is the perfect argument as to why the entire scheme is a Bill of Attainder and violation of Substantive Due Process. Those with nefarious intent will not abide by a law that will toss them in jail for a few years when they plan on committing a crime that could get them up to life in prison. Therefore, the laws do NOTHING toward their intended goals and shouldn’t hold up to any level of scrutiny. There aren’t even examples of how all of these registration requirements have ever been used to solve or prevent a crime. Again, that makes it so they shouldn’t pass “rational basis review”. As long as we don’t get the right case with the right clients in front of SCOTUS, lower judges (even appointed ones) aren’t likely to side with a sex offender when they will have family and friends to deal with. They know the laws are bad, but they’ll continue to think SCOTUS can fall on its sword and do the work to fix things.

I think the best evidence in a case against the registry for its travel restrictions, would be to outline a fictitious trip from LA to Miami with kids and no second parent. Pick the shortest route, and show city-by-city how impossible it is. At the end of it, explain how when you arrive at Miami you have to stay with your kids in a tent in a warehouse district full of hundreds of sex offenders and if there is a hurricane you can’t go to the hurricane shelter with your children. Explain how if you stay more than 48 hours, you will be registered there for life and even when you get off in your state, you still won’t be eligible for Government assistance with housing and will still be affected by IML because of still being listed in Florida. Now there’s a story that is unfortunately totally accurate.

This is all to true and sad. I need to travel to New Jersey in a few weeks and I’m still unclear if I have to register. I read the matrix on this site and it states the “10 day rule” but isn’t specific for people that are traveling, it only applies to people moving into the state. Called the local law enforcement in NJ and they were vague and unclear too. This makes me really uncomfortable…I’m not sure what to do?

Does anyone have experience traveling to New Jersey? Essex County in particular?

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Hi,

Let me start off after reading the comments. I agree and disagree. I live in Minnesota and they do not have a 21 day rule. In face, the city police dept. will not sign a form either will the dept. of public safety. Let me explain I do not register at all in the state of Minnesota. My trouble began in Texas and they removed me from the registry and after ten years they put me back on. So I have called two U.S agencies I got some more information on that. I did visit Williamsburg three weeks ago and It was a great place to visit.

Has anyone challenged these types of travel restrictions?